Man police subdued with stun gun dies

News Type: Event — Seeded on Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:24 AM EDT

Article Source: The Indianapolis Star

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A man whom officers shocked with a stun gun while he fought them in a Northwestside restaurant Friday night died a short time later, police said.
Henry O. Bryant, 35, 3000 block of Cluster Pine Drive, died after the incident around 10:30 p.m. Friday at O'Charley's restaurant, 5130 W. 38th St.

Indianapolis Metropolitan Police officers had used a Taser electric device and CS gas, a chemical similar to tear gas, to subdue Bryant, said IMPD spokesman Sgt. Paul Thompson.

A preliminary autopsy report released Saturday did not state the cause of death.

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Tedd Riggs

This one is a little hard to figure out what went on. The person was drunk, but it claims the Taser had no effect (or little) so I am wondering if that was a failure of the Taser or another case of Taser's having little effect on drunk persons ? Also it stated that CS gas was used with little effect. Something does not sound right. The combo of those two I would think is enough to stop anything. But I was not there either.

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5 votes

#1 - Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:28 AM EDT

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RegBarc

I've seen videos of criminals getting tased, then 5 seconds into it, they pull out the electrodes and get up.

When someone's body chemistry is altered by certain substances (PCP, alcohol, cocaine, etc.), there are some people who things like tasers and gas won't do jack to.

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3 votes

#1.1 - Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:04 PM EDT

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Tedd Riggs

I have seen a couple of those myself also. I am wondering if on some of those if its the drugs or a bad Taser ? They have had some high failure rates. But they either seem to knock people down in a hurry or have almost no effect on them.

I didn't know that about that gas part, thanks.

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3 votes

#1.2 - Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:08 PM EDT

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ShaunV

When someone's body chemistry is altered by certain substances (PCP, alcohol, cocaine, etc.), there are some people who things like tasers and gas won't do jack to.

Good point.

Also, I did a work/study program in a psych. ward and many psych. patients, not on any type of drug, can have seemingly super human strength. Perhaps natural brain chemistry changes or lack of fear or concern about their own welfare. ...perhaps a suicidal wish.

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3 votes

#1.3 - Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:10 PM EDT

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Tedd Riggs

Same goes for a person that might be bi-polar and on a manic phase. Almost impossible to tell what can happen.

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3 votes

#1.4 - Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:12 PM EDT

{"commentId":1639555,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}

ShaunV

Same goes for a person that might be bi-polar and on a manic phase. Almost impossible to tell what can happen.

Yes. Another good point.

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#1.5 - Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:27 AM EDT

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Wheel

tough call, he could have died anyway from the stuff in his system. I doubt being tasered helped anything though.

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1 vote

#2 - Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:16 PM EDT

{"commentId":1637179,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}

Tedd Riggs

No I am sure it did not. Especially if it is something like cocaine that increases the heart rate and then getting zapped drives it higher.

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1 vote

#2.1 - Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:14 PM EDT

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Digits

Shoot! I just seeded another article detailing this. But I hope you read it anyway. I find it interestingly lacking.

Two articles. Different versions. It's bizarre.

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2 votes

#3 - Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:06 AM EDT

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Tedd Riggs

That happens, no problem, the more viewpoints the better.

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2 votes

#3.1 - Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:12 AM EDT

{"commentId":1639792,"authorDomain":"digits"}

Digits

Thanks! :-)

From yours, it seems more linear.

Officers initially went to the restaurant on the report of a man with a gun, police said. They found an individual with a gun and determined he had a firearms permit.

Soon after officers brought that situation under control, the report said, a man identified as Bryant started fighting with officers. Several police officers were needed to get him under control and out of the restaurant, the report said. It is not clear why the fight began.

So basically. Bryant and the guy with a gun were two different people [probably] and the reason why it started with the police and Bryant is unclear. And yet Bryant, according to one source, was arrested for intoxication and because police could not subdue him, he is dead? But no one found it newsworthy enough to delve into precisely what happened for the police to want to restrain him in the first place?

I can see it now. A man getting his drink on at O'Charley's [I've been there and gotten my drink on] and getting rambunctious. On an unrelated-to-him situation, the police come in. Then he gets loud and obnoxious maybe even. The police, flexing their powerful muscles, tell him to calm down. It escalates and now Bryant is dead.

A real shame. 35 yrs old.

You know he did not wake up that morning thinking this was going to be the day he was going to die.

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3 votes

#3.2 - Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:30 AM EDT

{"commentId":1639839,"authorDomain":"TeddRi"}

Tedd Riggs

I had a hard time picking which story to see, I used Google Alerts and I had 13 of them, all a little different. This one at least made the most sense to me.

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3 votes

#3.3 - Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:45 AM EDT

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